"You can't be what you can't see. If it helps one little girl or one little boy be who they are and be comfortable, then we've done more than what I saw growing up."

Saints leaders Kate Shierlaw and Bianca Jakobsson join the Sounds of the Saints podcast to share their stories, talk about the importance of visibility, acceptance and role models, plus more, ahead of the 2022 AFLW Pride Round.

Listen to the full podcast via the media player below.

Episode guide

3:01 - A significant round of significant emotions
7:22 - "You can't be what you can't see"
9:30 - The strength of Darcy Vescio and Tori Groves-Little's stories
12:58 - Kate Shierlaw one year on
17:23 - A message for everyone listening in

01:45